Is DPO built into MetaTrader 5?

There is no iDPO function, so an EA cannot create a handle to it directly. The terminal does ship `DPO.mq5` under `Indicators/Examples`, so it appears in the Navigator and can be reached with iCustom. The Builder's node computes it from an `iMA` handle and the price series instead, which needs no external file.

Why does DPO shift the price backwards?

Because an N-bar average describes the middle of its window, not its right-hand edge. Moving the price back by N/2+1 lines the two up in time, which is what makes the leftover wiggle a cycle rather than a mixture of cycle and lag. The bundled MetaTrader version skips this and shortens the average instead.

Which formula should I use?

For measuring cycle length after the fact, the textbook form — that is what the shift is for. For a live rule, the bundled form, whose phase error measured 2 bars against a known 20-bar wave where the textbook form lagged by 11. What you should not do is tune on one and run the other: measured, they correlate at −0.44.

Do the two versions give different signals?

Yes, and more than ROC's two versions did. There, the sign always agreed so zero crossings ported across untouched. Here, measured upward zero crossings landed on the same bar only about 12% of the time, because today's price pushes the two readings in opposite directions.

What does a DPO of 0.0015 mean?

That price is 0.0015 above the detrended baseline, in the instrument's own units — 15 pips on a five-digit EURUSD. There is no normalisation in the formula, so the same number means something else on another symbol. If you want a comparable figure, CCI divides by the mean deviation to get one.

What period should I use?

Something near the cycle you are trying to see; 20 is the template's. The period decides what counts as trend — anything longer than it is subtracted away — and in the textbook form it also sets the shift, since that is N/2+1. Too short and the average tracks price so closely that almost nothing is left over.

How much history does DPO need?

N−1 bars for the textbook form and p−1 for the bundled one, and then it is exact. Measured against a full-history baseline, that came out at 11 and 6 for a period of 12. There is no recursion for a short history to get wrong.

Can DPO predict turning points?

It can describe them, which is not the same thing. The textbook form draws the cycle it has already seen, shifted back by N/2+1 bars, so its peaks line up with real ones only in hindsight. Anything predictive has to come from assuming the cycle repeats — which is an assumption about the market, not something the indicator supplies.

Can I build this without coding?

Yes. The template is one DPO node at period 20 on the bundled formula reading the closed bar, a constant of zero for it to cross, two Cross nodes for the two directions, a 50-period EMA with two Compare nodes against the Bid, two And gates, two Close nodes wired ahead of the entries, and Open Buy / Open Sell on a fixed lot. The compiled EA exposes the period, applied price, stop distances, lot size and maximum spread as inputs.

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DPO

Subtracts a moving average from price to strip the trend out and leave the cycle. Two conventions are in circulation and they are not variations of one indicator — measured, they correlate at −0.44, because the current price enters them with opposite signs. Not even the zero crossings port between them.

Default: 20
Centre: 0
Shift (textbook): N/2 + 1

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Ilustratif — data sintetis, bukan kutipan langsung.

What DPO tells you

A moving average is the trend; price minus that average is what is left once the trend is taken out. DPO is exactly that subtraction, and its purpose is to make the cycle visible without the drift underneath it. What turns it into a page of its own is that the subtraction is written two different ways. The textbook shifts the price back by half the period plus one before comparing it against an N-bar average — the shift exists to line the price up with the middle of the averaging window, which is where an N-bar average actually sits in time. The DPO.mq5 that ships with MetaTrader does not shift anything; it shortens the average to N/2+1 instead. Both are called DPO, both are plotted around zero, and measured on the same series they correlate at −0.44. The sign is not a typo: the current price pushes one of them up and the other one down, because in the textbook form today's price appears only inside the average being subtracted.

MetaTrader has no iDPO, but it does ship a DPO.mq5 — and that one does not shift
The two conventions correlate at −0.44: the current price enters them with opposite signs
Zero crossings agree only 12% of the time, so not even those port across

1 Take a moving average of price over N bars — that is the trend
2 Line the price up with the middle of that window, or don't — this is the choice
3 Subtract; what remains oscillates around zero

Tampilkan rumus & detail perhitungan

MetaTrader has no iDPO, but it does ship a DPO.mq5 under Indicators/Examples — and that file does not detrend the way the textbook does.

textbook : DPO[i] = price[i-(N/2+1)] - SMA(price, N)[i]        <- shifts the price back
bundled  : p = N/2+1 ; DPO[i] = price[i] - SMA(price, p)[i]    <- shifts nothing, shortens the average

At a period of 12 the textbook compares a 12-bar average against the price 7 bars ago; the bundled form compares a 7-bar average against the price right now. Measured over 4,000 bars on each of three series, the two correlate at −0.44.

The minus sign is the whole story. Bump one bar’s price by 1 and measure how far each reading moves:

                      predicted        measured
textbook   -1/N       -0.083333       -0.083333
bundled    (p-1)/p    +0.857143       +0.857143

In the textbook form today’s price appears only inside the average being subtracted, so raising it lowers the output. In the bundled form it is the leading term. One indicator treats the latest price as the signal; the other treats it as part of the trend to remove.

Not even the zero crossings port

On the ROC page the two competing formulas disagreed about every threshold but agreed on the sign 100% of the time, so a zero-cross rule moved between them untouched. That escape hatch is gone here:

              textbook    bundled    same bar
fx-flat         2829       2191        12.7%
fx-trend        2635       1736        12.2%
index-trend     2831       2117        12.4%

What the shift buys, and what it costs

Feeding in a known 20-bar sine wave buried in trend and noise, then searching for the lag that maximises correlation with the original wave:

             best correlation     phase lag
textbook          0.9957          -11 bars
bundled           0.9882           +2 bars

Both recover the cycle almost perfectly. Only one of them puts it under today’s candle. The textbook form’s lag is exactly its own N/2+1 shift — which is what makes its peaks line up with the cycles they belong to, and also what makes the last eleven bars of the line a description of the past. It is a measuring instrument, not a trigger. The template therefore reads the bundled form.

Both do remove the trend, which is worth stating since it is the indicator’s actual job: on a series whose price averaged 5414, the textbook DPO averaged −0.97 and the bundled one +1.94.

One measurement note. The first run of the warm-up test reported that the bundled form never matched a full-history baseline exactly. That was the instrument, not the subject: computing the average as a running sum makes the result depend on where the summation began, so two histories agree to about 1e-16 and never to the bit. Recomputing each window from scratch gave clean answers — exact from bar N−1 for the textbook form and p−1 for the bundled one, since neither has any recursion in it.

Sinyal

Sinyal yang dapat di-backtest dari DPO — dan kondisi pasar yang cocok untuk masing-masing.

Zero cross

Siap di Builder

Kondisi: DPO crosses from below zero to above (mirrored for shorts)
Kondisi terbaik: Ranging
Penggunaan umum: The template's entry — read on the bundled form, whose phase error measured 2 bars

Divergence

Interpretasi manual

Kondisi: Price makes a new high while DPO does not
Kondisi terbaik: Ranging
Penggunaan umum: Compares DPO against itself, so it needs no threshold — the one read that survives the choice of units

Cycle length estimate

Interpretasi manual

Kondisi: The spacing between successive DPO peaks
Kondisi terbaik: Ranging
Penggunaan umum: The classic use of the textbook form: measure the cycle after the fact, then set other indicators to it

DPO against its own average

Interpretasi manual

Kondisi: DPO crosses a short moving average of itself
Kondisi terbaik: Either regime
Penggunaan umum: A way to slow down a line that has no smoothing of its own

Implementasi MT5

Apa yang benar-benar dihitung dan digambar MetaTrader 5 — acuan bagi setiap aturan di halaman ini.

Catatan platform

Fungsi MQL5

none (iCustom / built from an iMA handle)

Applied price

Close Close · Open · High · Low · Median · Typical · Weighted

Di Builder

The node creates one simple-moving-average handle and reads the price series alongside it, so the applied price feeds both halves of the subtraction. It exposes the period, which formula to use, the applied price, shift, timeframe and a variable name. The formula is fixed when the EA is generated rather than exposed as an input — switching it at runtime would not re-tune the strategy, it would invert it.

Catatan implementasi

★★★ MetaTrader ships a DPO but not an iDPO. There is no DPO function in the MQL5 standard set, yet `DPO.mq5` sits in `Indicators/Examples` beside ADX and ATR. It is the same shape of gap as ROC and the Ultimate Oscillator: present in the terminal, absent from the function list, reachable from an EA only through iCustom and only if the file is there. The Builder's node creates one `iMA` handle and reads the price series alongside it, which removes the dependency.
★★★ The bundled DPO does not shift the price. The textbook writes `DPO[i] = price[i−(N/2+1)] − SMA(price, N)[i]`. `DPO.mq5` computes `ExtMAPeriod = InpDetrendPeriod/2 + 1` and then `ExtDPOBuffer[i] = price[i] − ExtMABuffer[i]` — no shift at all, with the shortening of the average standing in for it. At a period of 12 the textbook compares a 12-bar average against the price 7 bars ago; the bundled form compares a 7-bar average against the price right now. Those are different questions.
★★★ The two conventions correlate at −0.44, and the sign is the point. Measured over 4,000 bars on each of three series (flat FX, trending FX, a trending index), correlation came out at −0.4404, −0.4404 and −0.4477. The reason is that the current price enters them with opposite signs. Differentiating each formula numerically with respect to `price[i]` — bump one bar by 1 and see how far the reading moves — gives −0.083333 for the textbook and +0.857143 for the bundled form at N=12. Those match the algebra exactly: −1/N, because today's price appears only inside the average being subtracted, against (p−1)/p, because there it is the leading term. One indicator treats today's price as the signal; the other treats it as part of the trend to remove.
★★★ Not even the zero crossings port. On ROC, the two competing formulas disagreed about every threshold but agreed on the sign 100% of the time, so a zero-cross rule moved between them untouched. Here that escape hatch is gone: measured, upward zero crossings landed on the same bar 12.7%, 12.2% and 12.4% of the time on the three series. A rule written on one convention has to be re-measured on the other, not just re-tuned.
★★ The textbook form lags in phase by exactly its shift. Feeding in a known 20-bar sine wave buried in trend and noise and searching for the lag that maximises correlation with the original wave: the textbook form peaked at 0.9957 with a lag of −11 bars — its own N/2+1 shift — while the bundled form peaked at 0.9882 with a lag of 2. Both recover the cycle almost perfectly; only one of them puts it under today's candle. That is the practical split: the textbook form is a measuring instrument for cycles already past, the bundled form is what a live rule can read.
★★ Both really do remove the trend. On a series whose price averaged 5414 over the sample, the textbook DPO averaged −0.97 and the bundled one +1.94 — both within a rounding error of zero next to the level they were computed from. Whatever else the two conventions disagree about, neither of them leaks the trend into its output.
★★ The output is a price difference, so no threshold travels. DPO subtracts one price from another and divides by nothing, which means a reading of 0.0015 on EURUSD and a reading of 15 on an index describe the same thing in different units. CCI solves this by dividing by the mean deviation; DPO does not solve it at all. In exchange the number stays in the units your stop-loss is written in, which is occasionally more useful than a normalised one.
★ Warm-up follows from the formula and nothing else. Recomputing from a truncated history and comparing against a full-history baseline: the textbook form is exact from bar N−1 (11 at a period of 12) and the bundled form from bar p−1 (6). There is no recursion, so nothing carries forward from before the window — unlike ATR, which measurably needed hundreds of bars on the Keltner page.
★ A measurement note worth repeating. The first attempt at that warm-up test reported that the bundled form never matched exactly. It was the test that was wrong: computing the moving average as a running sum makes the result depend on where the summation started, so two histories agree to about 1e−16 and never to the bit. Recomputing each window from scratch gave the clean N−1 and p−1 above. When a measurement says 'never', suspect the instrument before the subject.

Bekerja paling baik / gunakan dengan hati-hati

Tidak ada indikator yang merupakan keunggulan universal. Inilah di mana DPO membantu — dan di mana ia menyesatkan.

Bekerja paling baik

Estimating how long a cycle runs, which is what the textbook form was built for
Ranging markets, where what is left after detrending is the tradable part
Divergences and other comparisons of DPO against itself, which need no fixed level
One instrument at a time — the readings are in that instrument's own units

Gunakan dengan hati-hati

Fixed thresholds: DPO is a price difference, so 0.0015 means nothing on another symbol
The textbook form for live entries — measured, it lags in phase by its full shift of 11 bars
Assuming a DPO from another platform matches this one: the two conventions correlate at −0.44
Very short periods, where the average sits close to price and almost nothing is left over

Buat strategi DPO

Hubungkan sinyal ke aturan masuk dan keluar, lalu ekspor EA MT5 yang dapat dikompilasi — tanpa kode.

One DPO node at 20 using the bundled formula, read on the last closed bar
A constant of 0 for it to be crossed against, once upward and once downward
A 50-period EMA compared against the Bid, feeding both directions
Cross up while price is above the average → Close short, then Open Buy · SL 50 / TP 130
Cross down while price is below it → Close long, then Open Sell, mirrored

Gabungkan DPO dengan indikator lain

Satu indikator jarang berdiri sendiri. Kombinasi ini menutupi titik buta DPO.

DPO + CCI

DPO
CCI
And gate

Mengapa: The closest relative on this hub, and the comparison that shows what DPO leaves out. CCI also measures how far price sits from its own average, but it then divides by the mean deviation, which turns the reading into a scale-free number that can be compared across instruments and given fixed levels like ±100. DPO does not divide by anything, so it stays in the instrument's own units and no fixed threshold survives a change of symbol. What DPO gains in exchange is that its output is a price distance you can read directly — the same quantity your stop is denominated in
Kondisi terbaik: Ranging

No shipped template pairs them; add a CCI node beside the DPO node and gate on both.

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DPO + HMA

Mengapa: Two different answers to the same complaint — that a moving average sits behind the market. Hull's answer is to build an average that catches up, by taking a weighted average of a weighted average and cancelling most of the lag arithmetically. The textbook DPO's answer is to leave the lag alone and move the price back to meet it, which is why the shift is N/2+1: that is where an N-bar window's centre actually is. The Hull line is something you can trade against in real time; the shifted DPO is something you read after the fact
Kondisi terbaik: Trending

Both nodes exist in the palette; there is no shipped template combining them.

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DPO + ADX Wilder

Mengapa: Not a signal pairing but the same trap in another place, and worth reading together. MetaTrader ships two ADX functions whose smoothing differs, and it ships a DPO whose formula differs from the textbook. In both cases the two versions carry the same name, both are plotted the same way, and the numbers underneath do not match. The lesson is identical: the name on the indicator does not tell you which formula is running, and the only way to know is to read the source and measure
Kondisi terbaik: Either regime

Nothing to wire — this is a note about reading sources, not a combination.

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DPO + Moving Average

DPO
Moving average
And gate

Mengapa: The template's pairing, and a slightly odd one on the face of it: DPO already contains a moving average, and the filter adds another. They do different jobs. The average inside DPO is the thing being subtracted — it defines what counts as trend and is thrown away. The 50-period average outside it is the thing being consulted — it decides which side of the cycle to take. Using one length for both would collapse the two questions into one and leave the rule with no view on direction
Kondisi terbaik: Trending

This is the shipped template — a DPO node, a constant of zero and a 50-period EMA compared against price.

Buka Builder →

Parameter

Nilai awal untuk divalidasi pada pasangan dan timeframe Anda sendiri — bukan pengaturan yang dijamin.

Parameter	Default	Rentang uji yang disarankan	Fungsinya
Period	20	1–999	How long a trend has to be before it counts as trend rather than cycle. Everything shorter than this survives the subtraction; everything longer is removed. It also sets the shift in the textbook form, since that is derived as N/2+1 — so changing the period moves both the averaging window and how far back the price is taken from. A period near the cycle length you are trying to see is the usual starting point.
Formula	shift the price (textbook)	textbook / bundled	Which of the two conventions to compute. `textbook` shifts the price back N/2+1 bars and subtracts an N-bar average; `bundled` shifts nothing and subtracts an N/2+1-bar average, reproducing the DPO.mq5 that ships with MetaTrader. Measured, they correlate at −0.44 — the current price carries a coefficient of −1/N in the first and (p−1)/p in the second, so it moves them in opposite directions. This is fixed when the EA is generated rather than exposed as an input, because switching it at runtime would not re-tune the strategy, it would invert it.
Applied price	Close	Close / Open / High / Low / Median / Typical / Weighted	Which price series both halves of the subtraction are taken from. The same choice feeds the moving-average handle and the price being subtracted from it, so the two always agree — median, typical and weighted are assembled from the high, low and close when the EA is generated.
Shift	1	0–100	Which bar the reading is taken from. The template uses 1 so the crossing is judged on a closed bar. Note that this is a separate thing from the N/2+1 shift inside the textbook formula: that one is part of the definition and moves the price relative to the average, while this one moves which bar you read the finished value on.
Timeframe	Current	Current / M1–MN1	Which series is sampled. Warm-up is short and follows directly from the formula: measured against a full-history baseline, the textbook form is exact from bar N−1 and the bundled form from bar p−1, because there is no recursion anywhere for a truncated history to get wrong.

Preset awal

Template 20, bundled formula, 50-period filter Zero crossings on the form whose phase error measured 2 bars

Cycle measurement Period near the cycle length, textbook formula The classic use — read the spacing between peaks after the fact

MetaTrader-bundled Any period, bundled formula Matches the DPO.mq5 under Indicators/Examples, if you are reproducing its chart

Contoh pasar

Di mana DPO bekerja, di mana ia gagal, dan bagaimana filter mengubah hasilnya.

Berhasil

The cycle low with the trend behind it

DPO turns up through zero while price is already above its 50-period average. The filter is what separates this from the identical-looking crossing a few bars earlier, which had no direction behind it.

Gagal

The crossing that came from the average, not the price

A flat stretch where the average drifts up into a static price and pushes DPO through zero from below. Nothing moved; the thing being subtracted did.

Difilter

The two conventions pointing opposite ways

A bar where the bundled form is clearly positive and the textbook form clearly negative. Measured, this is the normal state of affairs rather than an edge case — the two correlate at −0.44.

Indikator terkait

CCI Lihat panduan →

HMA Lihat panduan →

ADX Wilder Lihat panduan →

Moving Average Lihat panduan →

FAQ

Is DPO built into MetaTrader 5?: There is no iDPO function, so an EA cannot create a handle to it directly. The terminal does ship `DPO.mq5` under `Indicators/Examples`, so it appears in the Navigator and can be reached with iCustom. The Builder's node computes it from an `iMA` handle and the price series instead, which needs no external file.
Why does DPO shift the price backwards?: Because an N-bar average describes the middle of its window, not its right-hand edge. Moving the price back by N/2+1 lines the two up in time, which is what makes the leftover wiggle a cycle rather than a mixture of cycle and lag. The bundled MetaTrader version skips this and shortens the average instead.
Which formula should I use?: For measuring cycle length after the fact, the textbook form — that is what the shift is for. For a live rule, the bundled form, whose phase error measured 2 bars against a known 20-bar wave where the textbook form lagged by 11. What you should not do is tune on one and run the other: measured, they correlate at −0.44.
Do the two versions give different signals?: Yes, and more than ROC's two versions did. There, the sign always agreed so zero crossings ported across untouched. Here, measured upward zero crossings landed on the same bar only about 12% of the time, because today's price pushes the two readings in opposite directions.
What does a DPO of 0.0015 mean?: That price is 0.0015 above the detrended baseline, in the instrument's own units — 15 pips on a five-digit EURUSD. There is no normalisation in the formula, so the same number means something else on another symbol. If you want a comparable figure, CCI divides by the mean deviation to get one.
What period should I use?: Something near the cycle you are trying to see; 20 is the template's. The period decides what counts as trend — anything longer than it is subtracted away — and in the textbook form it also sets the shift, since that is N/2+1. Too short and the average tracks price so closely that almost nothing is left over.
How much history does DPO need?: N−1 bars for the textbook form and p−1 for the bundled one, and then it is exact. Measured against a full-history baseline, that came out at 11 and 6 for a period of 12. There is no recursion for a short history to get wrong.
Can DPO predict turning points?: It can describe them, which is not the same thing. The textbook form draws the cycle it has already seen, shifted back by N/2+1 bars, so its peaks line up with real ones only in hindsight. Anything predictive has to come from assuming the cycle repeats — which is an assumption about the market, not something the indicator supplies.
Can I build this without coding?: Yes. The template is one DPO node at period 20 on the bundled formula reading the closed bar, a constant of zero for it to cross, two Cross nodes for the two directions, a 50-period EMA with two Compare nodes against the Bid, two And gates, two Close nodes wired ahead of the entries, and Open Buy / Open Sell on a fixed lot. The compiled EA exposes the period, applied price, stop distances, lot size and maximum spread as inputs.

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